Page Break Podcast Episode 52: Ursula Vernon

The fifty second episode of my podcast Page Break is now out! In this episode, my guest is writer, artist and illustrator Ursula Vernon!

Ursula and I talk about talk about gardening, Ursula’s love of anthropomorphic animals, and writing the books we want to read. We discuss just how weird early science fiction and fantasy could be and what happens when a beloved series that goes off the rails. We also dig into the business side of what we do – travel, making money, and the complications of printing and self-publishing.


Page Break with Brian McClellan is a collection of casual conversations between me and fellow creative professionals—like two friends sitting down over lunch to discuss career, craft, family, and hobbies.

Authorhood is a quiet sort of minor fame where the person behind the words is often obscured by the works they’ve created. I aim to use this podcast to find out more about my friends and colleagues.

Look forward to weekly conversations with creators like TV writer/producer Joseph Mallozzi, epic fantasy author Robin Hobb, science fiction author Pierce Brown, Twitch streamer Mark Hulmes, and many more!

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